after an eye-opening conversation with an old acquaintance yesterday, someone i don't know well but thought i had some clue about .
we've all heard it said "i'm not a mind reader you know, speak up!
i didn't know you felt that way.
From a man's point of view, yes it was inconsiderate, and should have been painfully obvious. The shame of it is that the bible tells us to take care of those of our own household first. So even if there was important cong. problems, it still would have been wrong.
RV
a bit long, but i really need to vent, and i really need your replies.. my uncle is a jw, his wife and son and daughter-in-law are jw's, too.. they all moved away from family over 15 years ago, serving where the need was greater.. they went out west to new mexico, then other places.
they all broke off all contact with their .
parents (my uncles parents who are my grandparents, and my aunt's parents who i don't know well).
Sorry but I really don't feel qualified to help. I can't help but think that there must be some family history there that you are not aware of, that being said, you have my sympathy and prayers.
RV
ive been "in the truth" ever since i was 6 years old when my mother was baptised in the late 70`s.
so i sort of got dragged along to the meetings and therin started the indoctrination that was to prove to be my undoing.
ive been reading this page for a while now and read some very slick posts from dissillusioned ex members.
Welcome Salmon,
I know the feeling, still in the process, its hard to go quietly!!!!
RV
i hope this finds everyone well.
i feel like i am doing something wrong but i really don't care anymore, i've had enough.
i am 4th generation, born 22 years ago and raised a witness and need out.
Welcome,
I have the same feelings about leaving and loosing my whole family, faiding is not easy, at times I feel like a hypocrite, that I should just take a stand. But then I realize that God knows my heart and why I am staying. And we are encouraged in the bible to become all things to all people. So I agree with the others who told you to take it slow. And good luck!
RV
here is a scripture that explains just that.. john 5:39-40.
39you are searching the scriptures, because you think that by means of them you will have everlasting life; and these are the very ones that bear witness about me.. 40and yet you do not want to come to me that you may have life.. jesus clearly explains that it is not through the scriptures that we have everlasting life.
it is only by going to him..
I couldn't agree more abr, although I couldn't have put it so succinctly either.
1- "jehovah does not want us to be rich".
other religions teach that god helps us to become prosperous.
jehovah does not do that.
It just hit me, the witlesses have maintained that they never said that the end was comming in 1975 and in their literature while it's alluded to it isn't said outright, but though not a witness at the time, I'm sure they used talks like these to teach that doctrine. That way they could have there cake and eat it too. Teach the doctrine and when it doesn't happen deny ever teaching it and point to the literature.
In the future they will say that they never condemed college and point to the literature and say that they were just warning those of the dangers.
same old - same old
just wondering, all who have left, are leaving, or are still 'in' and no longer believe.. jw's have the hope of living forever...paradise...etc.. what is your hope for the future?.
do you still think there is the chance of living forever...paradise...etc..
ditto what Jaguar base said.
I guess what we are really saying is that we just don't know what the future brings but we hold out hope, and I think that's true of all of us. No matter what we profess to "believe", we are really just holding out hope.
RV
you can also go to the UN website and get the information there.
http://www.un.org/dpi/ngosection/ngo-docs.asp
once there just click on watchtower bible and tract society of NY.
RV
i've just noticed that some here have been posting for years, thousands of posts, some average 2, 5, even up to 10 posts per day, every day for years.
i am relatively new to the site, just wondering, what keeps those long time posters comming back?
i can actually see in my own case a time when my interest will wane.
Thanks for taking seriously my question. I find facanating all of your reasons for posting. And now I wonder how long I will be here?
i've just noticed that some here have been posting for years, thousands of posts, some average 2, 5, even up to 10 posts per day, every day for years.
i am relatively new to the site, just wondering, what keeps those long time posters comming back?
i can actually see in my own case a time when my interest will wane.
I've just noticed that some here have been posting for years, thousands of posts, some average 2, 5, even up to 10 posts per day, every day for years. I am relatively new to the site, just wondering, what keeps those long time posters comming back? I can actually see in my own case a time when my interest will wane. And please, I'm not criticizing, I'm just wondering...
